her name is mary ellen attridge, seth craven's defense attorney. >> i thought it was something that i could creatively dismantle. >> reporter: as far as the gang idea was concerned, that was ludicrous, as far as you're concerned? >> yes, it was not only ludicrous but it was scary. they spent enormous amounts of hours and taxpayer dollars to label this group a gang when in fact they were just a bunch of post adolescents from a neighborhood. it wasn't exactly like we were dealing with la cosa nostra. and it was at once most laughable and frightening. >> reporter: when investigators took the stand, they all faced the same questioning from ms. attridge. >> did you ever hear of the bird rock bandits? >> no, i never heard that name until today, i believe.kl.ñ >> so you never saw any graffiti that reflected bird rock bandits, to your knowledge? >> not to my knowledge. >> reporter: her point was this, if the bird rock bandits were a gang, had been one for years, how come nobody in law enforcement knew about them? the defense noted other contradictions as well, like the fact that the so-calle